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The last of the fire breathing big block Cougars were built in 1971. They featured the 429 Cobra Jet engine, and carried one of the highest factory horsepower ratings (370!) of any Cougar ever built. Sadly the times were not right and only a handful were built. The '71 Cobra Jet Registry is maintained by Mitch Lewis.
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Post by xr7g428 » 15 Aug 2013, 17:36

People tend to forget about the GT-E getting the 427. Particularly Mustang people. I think that the way that 370 is the biggest thing came about was in reference to the Mustang, and of course people think that the Mustang and Cougar were "the same".
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Post by CougarCJ » 15 Aug 2013, 17:58

cobrasc427 wrote:Since when is 370 HP more than 390 HP????????????????????
This is the original statement or question, it can be anything up to this point.

I (we) have surmised that the original point of this thread was the fact that the 1968 GT-E with 427-4V had a rating of 390Hp. The 1971 429CJ Cougar has a rating of 370Hp. Good so far?
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Post by cobrasc427 » 15 Aug 2013, 18:47

Unless were are talking about complete RUBES, I don't believe many people think Mustangs and Cougars are the same, at least not in my circle, perhaps yours? As for confusing the HP rating melting the Mustang into the Cougar, well once again, that doesn't hold water.

The Boss 429 was rated at 375, which is HIGHER than 370. My impression is that you misrepresented the HP rating for that particular Model Cougar, because of a bias, since you are well aware of the GT-E.

Be it Mustang or Cougar fans, or any other brand of fans, not many know the GT-E, you can thank Ford and L/M for the lack of advertising back when. As for the still unkown malady, you can thank the paranoid owners of the cars, don't let my name out, or where I live, or anything about the car, that might gain it some recognition. Gee, someone might try to fake my car, when the best way to protect the car and your investment, is to publish the info, just like SAAC has done for 30 years.

Listing a complete history of the car leaves a paper trail that can't be faked.




xr7g428 wrote:People tend to forget about the GT-E getting the 427. Particularly Mustang people. I think that the way that 370 is the biggest thing came about was in reference to the Mustang, and of course people think that the Mustang and Cougar were "the same".

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Post by cobrasc427 » 15 Aug 2013, 18:50

You are correct, as I pointed out in an earlier post, I was being sarcastic about the statement for the 429 CJ Cougar
since the poster of the description in my opinion, knew full well that the GT-E is the Cougar with the highest HP rating.
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cobrasc427 wrote:Since when is 370 HP more than 390 HP????????????????????
This is the original statement or question, it can be anything up to this point.

I (we) have surmised that the original point of this thread was the fact that the 1968 GT-E with 427-4V had a rating of 390Hp. The 1971 429CJ Cougar has a rating of 370Hp. Good so far?

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Post by Art » 15 Aug 2013, 23:27

All this HP talk, a quote from Carroll Shelby comes to mind...
Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.
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Post by cobrasc427 » 16 Aug 2013, 17:38

Yes torque is very important:

1968 427, 390 HP, 460 lbs. @ 3200 RPM

1971 429 CJ, 370 HP, 450 lbs. @ 3400 RPM

1966 427 R Code 425 HP, 480 LBS @ 3,700 RPM


With those figures, it still appears as the 427 is better than the 429 C J. 10 more ft.lbs. at an earlier RPM

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Post by cobrasc427 » 16 Aug 2013, 17:42

So when can we expect the correction of the description of the 71 Cougar 429 CJ be made??



xr7g428 wrote:People tend to forget about the GT-E getting the 427. Particularly Mustang people. I think that the way that 370 is the biggest thing came about was in reference to the Mustang, and of course people think that the Mustang and Cougar were "the same".

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Post by mo2872 » 16 Aug 2013, 21:03

Ok, I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one, but.......from where is all this debate stemming? Have I missed a thread somewhere? Link??
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Post by cobrasc427 » 16 Aug 2013, 21:19

The misinformation is in the description for the 1971 429 CJ Cougar Registry.

I observed the error, and posed "it" as a question, to get feedback from other members, or not. It appears as though not many people actually read the description in it's entirety . I also posted it since this misinformation is a falsehood, and it should be corrected, so as not to perpetuate a lie, on not only members, but visitors to this site also.

The trouble with the "printed" word, be it in a newspaper or the internet, once there, it is there forever, and no matter if it's true or not, it becomes the Holy Grail,,,,,,,,,,,, if it's written, it must be true. The problem with most people is that they forget about one of the rules of determining the printed truth,,, does the author have an ax to grind.

If he does, then what he writes, and if it's printed, it becomes a fact, no different than the "spin" that politicians but out,,,, just look at Bengazzi!! (sp)

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Post by Art » 16 Aug 2013, 21:27

Who really cares (other than you?) :)
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